Neil DELLACROCE HITMAN friend FAT ANDY RUGGIANO – Life and Times – HT

 

 

 

Anthony Fat Andy Reiano was a highly respected mobster whose career dated back to the days of Albert Anastasia and continued right up until the time of the Gotties. Let’s check him out. I’m James Gladwish and welcome to OC Shorts, bringing you detailed historical snapshots of the American Mafia and other organized crime.

 Feel free to subscribe if you like that sort of thing. I sat down with Fat Andy’s son, former Gambino Crime Family Associate Anthony Reiano Jr. to discuss his father’s career. So, thanks for coming on, Anthony. Um, I just want to talk about your father and some of the crews that he was involved in um during his time in well, obviously evolved into the Gambino crime family.

 Um but your father Anthony Fatandandy Reiano Senior he was made a relatively young age um under the tenure of Albert Anastasia in the early 50s. Is that correct?  Yes. He was straightened out in 1953.  Yeah. He was time  he was getting ready to turn 26. He was 25 but it was the year he turned 26 in August cuz I was born in I was born the same year I was born in October.

 He was already straightened out before I was born.  And did he ever did did Anastasia perform the ceremony? Do you remember?  No. Tommy Rava be performed the ceremony. The captain it was in. So Charlie Wagons, that was the guy that was the member that proposed my father, which is the same member that proposed John Gotti many years later.

 Yeah. Yeah. My fatico. Yeah.  Right. Call my fatico. He had a bar in Manhattan called the um Oh my god, what was the name of it? Um, it was there was a bar in Manhattan and and and and on top of the bar he had an apartment and the ceremony was conducted in that apartment by Tommy and Neil was there and Charlie was there and a whole bunch of people were there but but uh but Tommy performed the ceremony.

 So Tommy Rava was his first captain. Yeah.  Yes.  I mean he was a powerful captain in the Anastasia family, right? And he was very much an Albert Anastasia loyalist as you know we we know what happened to Tommy Rava later. um after Anastasia’s death. Um so yeah, what kind of um what was your father’s opinion on on Tommy Raver? Did did he like the man?  Oh, he was very close to Tommy.

 Yeah, I mean he was close to all of them at that point. He was close to Neil, Charlie, Tommy always had great things to say. Tommy Ravvel was like Anastasia’s main guy, main captain. I mean, they were doing all the work for Tommy. I mean, Tommy’s crew was doing all the work for Albert. Um so yeah he was very tight with him very close with him and later on he was close with his son  and um what was what was um your father’s memories of of Albert Anastasia was obviously he was in the crew which was very loyal to to Albert but you know

you hear these things about Albert’s mood swings and things like that. What was your father’s memories of him?  My father always told me two things. He told me that Albert Anastasia was the toughest person he ever met and Carlo Gambino was the smartest person he ever met. Um, he said Albert Anastasia was very was, you know, he was uh, how could I put it? So, they went to a funeral once.

 Albert Anastasia, my father, and a couple, they went to a funeral, and there was another maid member in there that was at the funeral without a tie on. And Albert bered the guy for not having a tie on and made him leave the funeral to go get a tie. I mean, he was, you know, he he he was very uh strict, very violent, very strict.

 Um very old school, my father told me. And uh you know, like the guy the the um the bank robber, he killed the guy cuz he read a newspaper, an article in a newspaper, you know, he was very um unpredictable.  Yeah.  Yeah.  So then obviously we know what happens. Um Anastasia gets murdered in 57. Um, and shortly after that, there are some conflicting things, but Tommy Rabbit gets himself killed as well because he was an Anastasia loyalist and there was a bit of a division in the family.

Delicroach comes back in and you know and and you know pledges allegiance to Gambino which probably saves his life. Um, and Delro is is now the captain and he’s your he’s your father’s captain at this point. So this is late 50s early 60s. Yes.  Yes. So after Albert, actually when Albert got murdered, my father was actually driving to the Ravenite with Tony Lee in the car when it came on the radio that Albert just got murdered in Manhattan and they pulled over and they called Neil and Neil told them not to come to the city after that. They all

went on the lamb. That whole regime went on the lamb after Tommy disappeared and they really were at war with Gambino because they were the guys that did all the work for Albert. And according to what my father told me and Tony Lee when how they made peace was Gambino reached out to them and made them all come to his house in Brooklyn and they went down in his basement one at a time and he told them I know you only took orders and uh and uh he brought them all back into the family and he made Neil the captain and that was my father’s second

captain Neil and that was Frankie Martin was in that crew Tony Lee Eddie Dolls Charlie, Danny, Guido. Um,  oh mate, even I’ve got the list I’ve got a list of names here and you’re flying through them there. So, yeah, I mean the list that I’ve got available here. So, Frankie Martin, you said, and I think his brother Joseph as well.

 Um, there’s a guy called Joe Vincent Bisogno, obviously. Mike Thally, obviously. Mike Tally. Mike Thally. Yes.  Um, Michael Vincent Catalano. Um,  yes.  Edward Roco. Eddie Otawa, I think.  Roco. Yeah, he he was from downtown Brooklyn. Yeah. Yep. Um, yeah, and obviously Galante Tony West and and Charlie West as well.

 Well, Tony West Tony West was never made. Charlie was made. Tony West never got straightened out because he went to prison.  Good good knowledge there. Um, I mean, who who was your father kind of closest to in in that in that in that crew?  Oh my god, he was very close to Neil at that time.

 Frankie Martin and him were very good friends. Mike Catalano, Charlie and Danny were like they, you know, but he was very he was really close to all of them. I mean, he wasn’t really on the house with any of them at that point anyway. And so then obviously in them around I think like 66 or so um the underbos Joe Bondo is basically shelved um and and Neil Delro gets up to the position of under boss kind of around the mid60s.

 So there’s a couple of things here. So I mean some reports say that obviously Mike Kha has took the crew took over the crew and then at a later point um Carmine or Charlie Wagons Fatico is given his own crew in kind of East New York and I think you and I had a bit of a thing on um on Facebook or whatever about  Okay, that that’s not correct. Okay.

 So So what’s your understanding of this? Okay, so this so when Neil became the underboss, actually Charlie became a captain and then for some reason Gambino took Charlie down. I don’t really know the reason. I It never was explained to me. All I know was that they Gambino took Charlie down and that’s when Mike Tally became the captain.

Charlie was never a captain at that point. So yeah, he had a crew in in in Queens. My old man had a crew in East New York. But they all were under. But Mike Thally was their captain. Mike Thally was Charlie’s captain. Danny’s captain. My father Tony Le Frankie Martin. Mike Tally was their captain.

 And you could say that was the Ravenite crew. That was Neil’s crew.  That was Neil. Neil. So yes,  the crew that Neil was captain to  Charlie. And then Charlie got taken down. Then Mike Thally became their captain. and he was he was their captain when the books opened up. When the books opened up, Nikki, Lenny, they were all also put with Mike Tally when they got straightened out.

 You’re talking about 76. Yeah.  Yes. Right. So now Mike had a big crew when Mike did what he did. Went to Paul to try to get Neil taken down and Paul told Neil and Mike got chased  because the only reason why Mike didn’t get killed was because he grew up with Neil. Yeah. Yeah. I did a video on that. Yeah.

 He got chased. I never saw him again after that. When he got chased, they made Charlie a captain again and Charlie took over that crew.  And then when Charlie and then when Charlie got cancer uh John became a captain and that was the that was how that went down.  Okay.  So yeah, Charlie had a crew.

 And so people get confused because yeah, Charlie had a crew. My old man had a crew. My father had a crew with 70 guys in it. One of the biggest crews in in New York for as far as, you know, a wise guy goes. So yeah, they had their crews in different neighborhoods, but they were all under the umbrella of the Ravenite, let’s say, and and Mike was the captain, if that makes sense to you.

 Yeah. Yeah. So what year would you say that um Fatico was given his crew, which obviously becomes like the Bergen crew, right?  Right. Well, that’s just because the club was um  Yeah, that’s right. Yeah.  Yeah. Yeah. was the club was named the Burke when Charlie became a captain when Mike Tally got chased.

 That’s when Charlie became a captain again and they were all with with Mike. My father now he was in trouble so he was going to Florida. He had a lot of legal issues with subpoenas and all that [ __ ] So he was going back and forth when Charlie became the captain. He made Guido, this guy Guido Dolls his acting captain,  right? Guido got killed.

 He got murdered. When Guido got married, he made John Gotti his acting captain. And then when Charlie died of cancer, John became the official captain.  That’s right. Yeah. Guido Doss was killed in I think 77.  Yeah. He was killed outside a Ziganette game. He had a Ziganette game in Manhattan.  So, I mean, obviously, you know, I mean, that crew was kind of quite quite feared and they they did a lot of work.

 I mean, is there any kind of and you don’t have to answer this question at all, but is there any kind of confirmed um hits that your that your father participated in or was that never spoken about basically?  No, he I mean he So there’s a he always told me about a hit he did for Gambino actually um for for for Albert.

 He just I know he he he did hits he never told me their names. He did a couple eggs for Albert, a couple of He did a lot of [ __ ] for Albert. And he that he always told me that sometimes he might have done too much cuz people that’s why he got held back a little bit because people knew what he was capable of.

 And Albert had a nickname for him. Albert used to call him the kid. Send the kid. So he did a lot of work for Albert, but he never gave me names. Now Gambino, there’s an article that I have. There was a maid guy that had a florist in Brooklyn that was um they thought he was an informant and my father and another guy went in there and broad daylight and they executed the guy and there’s an article in the newspaper about it and um he told me that whole story because what happened was uh and even he used to go on the lamp to Atlantic City and Albert

had a potato farm. He told me when he did work for Albert, Albert had a potato farm and sometimes guys would go to the potato farm and never uh never come back. And  yes,  he had to do a piece of work for Albert and Albert asked him if he needed a place to to go until everything calmed down and he told Albert, yeah, he had his own spots.

 He wasn’t going to no potato farm, but he never gave me names. He just told me that he did a lot of work for them and he told me um he was he did some he he was on a lot of hits that he didn’t pull the trigger but he was just there to make sure he got pulled in  Yeah. But still Yeah.  Yeah.

 He got pulled in for He actually got pulled in for for uh the Frank Costello shooting him and he got he got taken to the So when back then he said whenever there was a mob hit they would always scoop him up and when  they rounded up a selection of usual suspects.  Right. Exactly. Exactly. And so when Frank Costello got got uh got shot he him and if you look back then him and the chin sort of resembled each other.

They had the same type of hair, the same type of built. They were short, stocky, and they actually took my father to the hallway and made him run in and out of the hallway cuz there was a witness from across the street that saw a guy run out of the hallway and they took him to the hallway to run in and out of the hallway and then they let him go.

 And we all know that Chin killed, you know, did the shooting. And I asked my father one day, “How do h how do I know you didn’t do it?” He says, “Because if I did it, he would have been dead.” That was his that was his remark. He said because he never left this he never left a hit without shooting the person in the head once before he left.

 That was my uh that was my um fatherson talks when I was uh you know in my early 20s that my father never left the scene of a murder. He used to call it the coupra. He said I would never leave without coup in him. That’s what and he used to go like this with his finger  to always finish the job. Make sure basically get take that head shot.

 So just going back to you know the the hits you were talking about with the the guy who ran a florist in Brooklyn.  Was that Alfred Santonio?  Yes.  I mean he’s the guy who provided the some of the information about the Anastasia hits  saying that the actual shooters were Steven Galalta and Joe Cahill and that it was um Joe Joe Bondo and Joe Ricabono who kind of who were kind of behind it.

Yeah. So, I mean, they were right that, you know,  San Antonio was an informant. And so, your father is one of the suspected gunmen.  He he he definitely was one of them. He told me he was one of them. Uh him, he never told me who he was with, but he told me he was one of them. And he told me the whole scenario.

 And after he was done, so it was in done in broad daylight. And there was a and there my father had a lot of Jewish people that were with him. And there was this Jewish guy that was with him called Ben Blue. and he had a club a couple of blocks away from the florist. And after the hit, my father went to the to the club and he had makeup on.

 If you read the art, they both had makeup on and he went in the club and he and he cleaned himself up and Freddy Hut, who was one of his friends, um was the only came to pick him up and drove him to Atlantic City. He was Freddy Hut was the only one that knew where he was going to go and he went to Atlantic City and then my mother took me and my brother and my sister to my grandmother’s house and then she took the train and met my father in Atlantic City after that hit and two things cooled down and then he came home. So you told me that whole

scenario about that hit.  Fantastic. Um, so was there anyone that your father didn’t particularly like, you know, within within the Gambino family or within other families at all? Did you ever discuss anything like that?  He hated he hated Crazy Joe Gallo. He never liked him. He had a he had So Tony Lee had a cousin named Sunny.

 He was he came from down he came from that neighborhood in in uh in downtown Brooklyn, Red Hook, where Joe Gallow came from.  And Sunny was one of was Joe Gallow’s actually co-fendant on his state case. Um, he did a lot of time Sunny, but he was he was Tony’s cousin, a very capable guy.

 when he got out of prison, they had a couple of sitdowns with with Joe because they wanted them to release Sunny to them from one family to another family and and and they had they had a couple of serious sitdowns and then finally my father got the best of it and they released Sunny to to my father and then Paul they straight Sunny actually became one of the first guys that Paul Castellano made after they opened up the books. So he never really liked him.

 He never cared for him. He never had a good thing to say about him. He never liked Patty Mack. He did not like Patty Mack the  Yeah. that got married. And he he never had he had a big fight with him in a in a in um in a So they were in a wedding one night and John Gotti happened to be there.

 Uh but he was I think John might have just got straightened out. They were all at a wedding and my father was having an argument with Patty Mack out in the vestibule and he called Patty Mack. He called Patty Mack a [ __ ] [ __ ] and and he and he and he told him he’ll put him, you know, and they were having an argument and my mother went in and and told them what was going on and John Gotti and Tony Lee went out into the into the vestibule and they broke it up.

He never liked Patty Mack.  Um  that that’s really the ones that he really disliked them two. I mean he never he didn’t like Dom Sailor after I had that big beef with Dom. They did not like him. When Dom threw his glasses at me and we had a big sit down in the in in the Chins club with um the Chin’s brother who was a captain.

 He sat down. Dom the Sailor, Tony Lee, my father, me, John Gotti, Angelo Quack, and we had a sit down in the Chins club on Sullivan Street. He didn’t like Dom the Sailor. He told Dom the Sailor if he ever put his hands on me again, he was going to put him through the floor.  It was because a lot of the people say that Dom’s a sailor.

 Um, Dquatro, wasn’t it? That’s his surname. That he disappeared. Um, but I read something the other day where someone said that, you know, he might have actually just been shelved. I mean, what was your understanding? Was he killed?  I I have no idea, you know. I know he disappeared, you know, after.

 So, after that incident, I mean, he he after that incident, I really didn’t see him anymore much. You know what I mean? All I heard was he disappeared. I don’t know the reason why if he got sheld if he I don’t think he got I don’t think he got killed cuz he was he was pretty close to them.

 I mean Shin’s brother was his captain. I mean you know  and I think he’d actually been acting captain of that crew.  Yes he was and he was that’s why John he he got insulted that John didn’t come and see him. You know when he his first words to me were when I approached him at the table was um he told me you’re not what are you doing here? You’re not on my level.

 So right away I knew it was going to be an issue. And yeah, Tony Roach, Tony Roach was with me. You know, we all know he was [ __ ] crazy Tony Roach to begin with. And he was standing by the door  and I told Dom, “Listen, I’m not here to discuss levels or who’s on your level.” And I I’m here to give you money. John and Tony sent me here.

 And I gave him the envelope.  Yeah.  And he counted it and he said, “It’s short.” And then he just looked at me and he he goes, “What are they playing cards?” and he threw his glasses at me and they hit me in the chest and bounced off my chest. And then I said, you know, then I said something to him.

 Then he jumped up and he went to slap me and I grabbed his arm and I put his put it behind his back and I put him up against the wall and he was and then Tony Roach started running to like smash him and I went and I put my hand up to stop Tony Roach from hitting him.  Yeah, because the guy’s a made guy, right? An acting captain.

 Yeah. I mean, you know, it would have been, you know, bad enough that, you know, I had my hands on him. Now to you know, Tony Roach, he might have killed the poor bastard. You know what I mean? So I I stopped Tony Roach from from doing what he was doing. And and then I told I told Dom, I go, “Listen, Dom, I’m going to let you go, but don’t hit me.

Don’t put your hands on me cuz we’re going to we’ll hurt you.” And I let him go. And he get the And then he started screaming, “Get out of here. You tell damn.” And and he’s ranting and raving and and we left. And I went back to 101st Avenue. I went back to the club and that’s then they took me back to the Ravenite and a whole big thing.

 And then there was this guy Mo [ __ ] He was like um  he was like an old old wise guy from back in the day from you know back in the  when they formed the five family. This guy was like a dinosaur. He was and he loved my old man. This guy love because my old man used to always stake him. He was he was an old man but a made guy.

 My father would always give him a couple of hundred hours and take him out to dinner with us and I went outside to smoke a cigarette and he was outside and and and he came up to me. He goes and he said, “Listen, you know where your father is?” My father was in Florida. I go, “Yeah, I know where he is.

” He goes, “Go get your tell your father to come up here right away. Don’t go on any Don’t go in any cars. Don’t go on any appointments. Don’t go anywhere with anybody. Even if it’s Tony Lee, don’t go with anybody unless your father’s with you  cuz it’s trying to set you up.  I ran to a pay phone and I called up Florida.

 I told my father I had a beef with Domer and that afternoon my father was on a flight back up to New York. So he didn’t like Tom Deiler because and at the sit down Tom Deiler told a whole different story and my father just told him you know you’re you’re he says uh he goes with him you can calling me a liar and my father goes yeah you’re a liar cuz my son ain’t going to lie to me and it was a whole big thing.

 So what was the name of that guy by the way who tipped you off?  Moink.  Moink. Okay.  Yeah. Yeah. He [clears throat] was that was his Yeah. He was an old old man but a good guy. I mean he was like around from the black hand days like he was old.  Yeah. And he was always at the raven night.  So just going back obviously so then we know in 1976 Carla Gambino passes away.

Um Paul Castellano you know becomes boss. What was your father’s thoughts on that at the time? Did he have a good relationship with Paul because obviously he was very loyal to Neil dero dad. So  Oh well they were all upset that that Neil didn’t become the boss. Of course you know John wasn’t even straightened out yet but They were all upset that uh that Neil didn’t become the boss.

 But Neil didn’t want to be the boss. He could have been the boss in a heartbeat. He didn’t want it. You know, he was happy where he was. He was making tons of money. He was the under boss. Um and he didn’t want it. My f So my father, he had a lot of he had a lot of juice because he had a really big crew at that time. He had over 70 guys with him.

 I mean his crew at that time consisted of Nikki Karazza, Lenny, Jojo, Skinny Dom, Tony Pep. I mean all these guys became major players in the Gambino family. They were all associates at the time. So my father had my father ran my father had the um sheet rock union, the tapers union, which was a big union in New York.

 He took that over when Gambino was the um the boss. Yeah.  And when he took it over,  Gambino told them that, well, now this belongs to the family. And Gambino gave my father $2,000 a month to run the union for them. Usually captains do that, but he let my my father did it. When Paul became the boss and my father, he [clears throat] sent for my father to talk about the union because Paul was into construction.

 And he asked my father how much my father got. And when my father told Paul how much he got, he goes, “That’s all my that’s all Carl was giving you.” And and he bumped it up to 5,000 a month.  And uh so he had a good relationship with Paul. He didn’t really like him. I mean, he he it wasn’t that he liked him or disliked him.

 He he had a pretty good relationship with Paul. Now, on the other hand, Tony Lee hated him because when my father went to prison, my father always took care of the union. Tony Lee had nothing to do with it. He just got half the money. Yeah.  When when when when my father went to prison, Paul sent for Tony Lee to ask him about something was going on with the union because they were bid rigging.

They had the club then they were bid rigging and all that stuff, the five families, the bosses and and and [clears throat] Paul sent for Tony and Tony had no answers for him and he bered Tony at the table and Tony said, “Listen, Andy took care of the union. I I never took care of it. And he bered Tony Lee for not knowing anything about the union.

 And ever since that day, Tony Lee hated him.  Yeah.  Yeah. He was at my wedding. I mean, he was at my wedding. Paul, he was at my wedding. He gave me $500 in five 1977. He gave me $500 and he signed the card. Love Paul Castellano. And my father ripped up the card and threw it away.  Oh, really?  Yeah. Because his name was on it.

 But uh Yeah. That that brings me to another bit here. So obviously we know December 85 Castellano’s obviously murdered um and goti takes over. What was your father’s views about that? Was he was it just you know it was he didn’t think one way or another about it?  Well, he was in prison. He was in prison when it happened.

 So  would it would he try to counsel against it? Would he have been involved?  No, he No, he was all in. He, you know, at that point he knew he he knew what was going on with Paul that he was holding people back and he knew like, you know, he was greedy. He knew all that. He knew he was greedy.

 He agreed with all that. He knew that uh he wanted Angelo’s tapes.  You know, he was up on and he knew that was a big issue. You know, Angelo wasn’t and he liked and he loved Angelo. My father loved Angelo. Tony Lee used to tease my father all the time and say, “You know why you like Angelo? Cuz you he’s just like you a bully.

 kill that guy, chop that guy up, use it both the same. My father used to tell my Tony used to tell my father all the time. So he he he loved quack- quack. So he he was all in on them and he he when when it happened, he was calling me up every day when he’s coming to see me, when he’s coming to see me because he wanted to know the in you know what went on.

 So finally, so finally me and Tony Lee went up to see him and Tony told him the whole thing and he was very impressed how the hit went down and brought Daylight in Manhattan. He goes, “That was great. That was a big move. That was good.” And I think at that point he was a little um sad that he wasn’t in the street. You know what I mean? Cuz Yeah.

He cuz Tony Lee was in on the whole thing. He just wasn’t at the scene. But Tony Lee was in on the whole planning of it. Uh Tony put Tony Pep into it and Skinny Dom. Um he was in on the whole scheme Tony from day one. And actually after Paul got murdered and John became the official boss.

 Tony’s mother lived in Ozone Park. And they had their first meetings in her basement when John was calling in all the captains to find out what actually the family owned and ran because he didn’t even know everything that was going on. And they all were coming to Tony’s mother’s house one at a time and going down in her basement and telling John what was going on, how much they were kicking up and all that [ __ ] But he he was my father was happy about it.

 He was just a little sad that he wasn’t in the street.  Fair enough.  Um, so this is just kind of you and I have discussed this before previously just before after he came out of prison towards the end before he died. Um, I think you said that he was kind of made an honorary captain. There’s a lot of people always discuss because of your father had such a big crew as you said 70 odd guys and amongst that he had some guys who were future made men like your dad was the one who proposed Nikki Carzo right  yes  and there was you know people have said

that he he almost no he didn’t reluctantly do that but at one point he he didn’t want his guys to all be made men at one point whe that’s true or not that’s just you know what you can read but until that point just before you know when he finally came out of prison that last time and he was made an honorary captain was he he wasn’t a captain for they  okay so this this is the misconception.

So he was never at that point not an official captain but he had such a big crew and he was so well respected and and and did what he did throughout the years that he had a lot of juice compared to like another wise guy  because you know there was some wise guys that had nobody with them.  There was some captains that had nobody with them.

 Now, here’s a guy that has at one point we counted he had 78 guys with him before the books opened.  So, he had a lot of juice and he had a lot of permission. He had permission to a lot of times to go on sitdowns without a captain. He represented the family sometime like I’ll give you for instance how he actually got in trouble in in Florida.

 So, Tommy A had a crew in Florida. He was having a beef with the Travacanties, the the crew in Tampa over beh.  They sent for my father to come to New York. My father goes to New York. He meets with Paul Castellano, Neil, Joe Gallo, Joe Piney, and Tommy A and my father. And Paul asks my father, “Do you know the Tropicantes?” And he goes, “Of yeah, I do.

” He goes, “Okay, we’re going to send Tommy down there. You’re going to represent me and you’re going to sit down with the Tommy.” So they gave my father permission now to go sit down with bosses and captains to represent the Gabino family. So that’s why people always took it for granted he was a official captain because of things he did, but he wasn’t.

 He he he was sort of acting captain for Joe Paterno in Florida. When he was in Florida, he was running around with Joe Paterno, who was the captain in Florida, but he was never an official captain. He the newspapers had him down as a captain. The streets had him down as a captain. He was never really disputed.

 Nobody ever know said, “All right, now he ain’t a captain, you know, none of that book.” Because, you know, he wasn’t Andy. But at the end, Pete, I guess you could say, did the right thing because Pete, he never liked because Pete really, you know, there was a beef with her over money with my sister and then they made him an a captain.

 I think I guess out of respect and uh, you know, just uh he was around so long. I mean, at that point in time when he became an official captain, he had so many restrictions on him. You know, we laughed about it like F now, you know, but he always had enough. He he always had the juice of a captain. Let’s put it to you that way.  So, Anthony, you’ve um you’ve got a book coming out soon.

 Um can you tell us a bit more about that? What’s what’s going to be involved in that?  Yes. So, so I I sat down with my team and and you know, and Hollywood glamorizes the mob and all that, you know. So, so I put together a book like telling my story about my life, the people that I ran across, the choices I made, and it’s about not the dark side of the mob, but it’s about reality.

 It’s about what really goes on inside the mob. What really goes on inside of a a mob family and in a media family. Like there’s your mob family and then there’s your  children and wife,  right? So, so we put together this book about, you know, the consequences of living in that life and the outcome, you know, and how I got through it and how I survived it and how now I’m clean and sober 37 years, you know, about my 14 years in prison.

 It’s all about it’s all about my life and my perspective of of what really goes on in the mob, not Hollywood’s perspective. My, you know, the a real someone that was in it perspective. So, uh, and that’s basically what it is. It’s going to be it’s going to be coming out. We’re going to start taking orders in June. It’s going to be ready in June.

 We’re going to have a book launch in September. So, it’s going to be on my website like I told you, anthony.com.  You have a confirmed title for it at this point?  Uh, well, I’m going to tell you what we do. I’ll show you a picture. Hold on. Let me I got a picture. Hold on. Where is it? I have a picture of it here.

 If you could see it. So, this is what it’s going to be. Oh, there we go. Fantastic.  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect.  That’s going to be the cover. Yeah. Reform gangsters of the the life inside the Gambino crime family. Born into the life. Live to tell it as told by Anthony Rugiano Jr., son of mafia legend Fat Andy Rugiano.

 So that’s  Are you If I put a link to your website, you people can do some pre-orders there, can they?  Yes. Put go put a link to my website and everything. They can get everything on there. My Patreon, my YouTube, my book, everything’s on there. In the comments below, let me know your thoughts on the topic covered in this video.

 I hope you found that interesting. Thanks for watching.

 

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