Why LBJ Banned RFK From Being Vice President DD
July 30th, 1964, 100 p.m. The Oval Office. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy entered the room. President Lyndon Johnson sat behind the desk, JFK’s desk, waiting. This wasn’t a friendly meeting. This was an execution. The day before, Johnson had made a public announcement that stunned Washington.
No member of his cabinet would be considered for Vice President. Not Secretary of State Dean Rusk, not Defense Secretary Robert McNamera, not Agriculture Secretary Orville Freeman, but everyone knew the truth. There was only one target, one name that had to be eliminated. Robert F. Kennedy. I spent about an hour with the president, mostly being lectured to, Kennedy would later tell friends.
Johnson’s message was clear. You’re out. When Kennedy left the Oval Office, he made a bitter joke to AIDS. I’m sorry I took so many nice fellows over the side with me, but the real line, the one that revealed his fury, came later. Kennedy told a confidant what Johnson really wanted.

He’d do anything to keep that rug from under me. If you want to understand the most ruthless political maneuver in modern American history, how a president invented a fake rule to destroy his greatest rival, hit that like button because this isn’t about cabinet policy. This is about pure hatred, about a vendetta so deep that Johnson was willing to sacrifice his own team just to eliminate one man.
November 22nd, 1963. When JFK died, Lynden Johnson inherited the Bobby problem. Democratic voters loved Bobby Kennedy. Polls showed 85% wanted him as running mate in 1964. Unity, continuity, Camelot restored. But Johnson saw a threat, a rival, a Kennedy reclaiming stolen power. Bobby wasn’t just popular, he was necessary.
Without Kennedy, Johnson risked losing Union voters, Catholics, the Kennedy faithful. But Johnson didn’t care. He cared about power. And Bobby threatened that power more than any Republican. Because Bobby wasn’t running for vice president. He was positioning for 1968 or 1972. And Johnson knew it.

When this fellow looks at me, Johnson told AIDS, he looks at me like he’s going to look a hole right through me, like I’m a spy or something. Now, Bobby wanted to be vice president. One heartbeat from power. Johnson would rather burn down his cabinet than allow it. To understand why Johnson banned Bobby, you need to understand how much they despised each other.
The hatred began in 1960. JFK chose Johnson as running mate over Bobby’s fierce objections. Bobby saw LBJ as a corrupt Texas politician. LBJ saw Bobby as a spoiled rich kid. During Kennedy’s presidency, Bobby wielded power like a weapon. He froze Johnson out of meetings, excluded him from decisions, made sure everyone knew Johnson wasn’t part of the inner circle.
LBJ sat in cabinet meetings, humiliated, powerless. Jackie Kennedy later said, “You could never get an opinion out of Lyndon at any cabinet or national security meeting.” But the real wound went deeper. According to Kennedy aid Richard Goodwin, Bobby symbolized everything Johnson hated. The wealth, the ease, the eastern elegance, the Ivy League polish.

Johnson always looked at himself as the guy they thought was illiterate, rude, crude, Goodwin said. When JFK died and Johnson became president, the hatred didn’t end. It intensified. Bobby resented that Johnson flew back from Dallas on Air Force One instead of the vice presidential plane. Our president was a gentleman and a human being.
Bobby said, “This man is not. He’s mean, bitter, vicious, an animal in many ways.” Johnson, meanwhile, watched Bobby move through Washington like an exiled prince. The Kennedy faithful treated Bobby as the real leader. Johnson was just keeping the seat warm. And now Bobby wanted the vice presidency. Johnson would sooner die. Spring 1964.
Democratic voters loved Bobby. In New Hampshire’s informal vice presidential poll, Kennedy crushed Humphrey in a landslide. The message was clear. We want Bobby. Johnson staffers called it the Bobby problem. How do you reject the most popular Democrat without destroying your campaign? Johnson was paranoid.

On recorded phone calls, he told Governor John Connelly that Bobby planned to force a floor fight at the convention. That the JFK memorial film would create such emotion that delegates would stampede toward Kennedy. He’ll do anything in the world he can to get it, Johnson said. But Johnson feared something deeper. Bobby wasn’t running for vice president.
He was positioning for 1968 or 1972. And Bobby, one heartbeat away, would undermine Johnson every single day. So Johnson devised a plan. Ruthless, brilliant, devastating. Ban Bobby from the ticket, but not directly. That would look petty. Instead, create a rule. Neutral, reasonable, applying to everyone, but really targeting one person. July 29th, 1964.
Johnson summoned Bobby to the Oval Office for an hour. Johnson lectured him. The conversation wasn’t recorded. Bobby knew about JFK’s taping system and likely warned Johnson not to record, but we know what Johnson said. You’re not getting the vice presidency. Bobby later told friends the meeting was excruciating.
sitting across from Johnson in his brother’s office, being told politely, coldly that he was finished. The next day, July 30th, Johnson made his public announcement. I have reached the conclusion that it would be inadvisable for me to recommend to the convention any member of my cabinet. The statement ruled out Bobby, but it also ruled out Dean Rusk, Robert McNamera, Orville Freeman, Adlay Stevenson, Sergeant Shrivever, all of them.
casualties in Johnson’s war against one man. The press understood immediately. The New York Times wrote, “What Johnson was really saying is that despite the clamoring among many in the party, there is no way he will select Attorney General Robert Kennedy.” Bobby issued a gracious public statement.
It is up to the presidential nominee to pick a running mate, and I understand the president’s decision. But privately, he was furious. He sent a note to the other cabinet members. I’m sorry I took so many nice fellows over the side with me. And he told a confidant what he really thought. Johnson would do anything, anything to keep power away from the Kennedys.
He’d do anything to keep that rug from under me. Johnson’s maneuver worked. Bobby was out. Hubert Humphrey was in. Humphrey was loyal, controllable, grateful, everything Bobby wasn’t. At the Atlantic City convention in August, Johnson delayed the JFK memorial film until the final night after Humphrey was already nominated.
He couldn’t risk emotion stampeding delegates toward Bobby. Bobby resigned as attorney general on September 3rd, ran for Senate from New York, won, and hated that he needed Johnson’s help to do it. Johnson’s final revenge, signing legislation barring future presidents from appointing relatives to the cabinet. the Bobby Kennedy rule.
Was Johnson’s cabinet ban legitimate policy or personal vendetta disguised as principal? Johnson claimed he needed his cabinet members to stay in their posts for continuity, for stability, but that’s absurd. Cabinet members leave all the time. Rusk could have been replaced. Magnamera could have been replaced.
There was no operational reason to ban the entire cabinet. The real reason was simple. Johnson couldn’t ban Bobby directly without looking petty, so he banned everyone. Scorched earth, collateral damage. According to historian Jeff Sheeel’s mutual contempt, Johnson’s big push for liberal legislation was in part to ensure that he did not need RFK as VP in order to win.
In 1964, Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act, launched the War on Poverty, built the Great Society. Not just because they were good policies, though they were, but because they gave Johnson the political strength to reject Bobby Kennedy. Johnson’s approval ratings soared. His legislative victories proved he didn’t need the Kennedy name. He could win on his own.
And so, he destroyed Bobby’s vice presidential dreams without firing a single shot directly at him. Brilliant, ruthless, effective. The cabinet ban of 1964 remains one of the most cynical political moves in American history. It wasn’t about governance. It wasn’t about continuity. It was about one man’s hatred for another.
About Lynden Johnson’s determination to keep Robert Kennedy as far from power as possible. And it worked. Bobby never became vice president. Johnson won the 1964 election in a landslide without him. Humphrey served loyally. The Kennedy threat was neutralized for four years because in 1968, Bobby came back not for vice president, for president.
And Johnson, terrified of facing Bobby in the primaries, withdrew from the race entirely. The man Johnson had banned from the vice presidency in 1964, was about to reclaim the White House in 1968 until a gunman in a Los Angeles kitchen stopped him. But that’s another story. If this investigation into political vendetta disguised as policy made you reconsider what you thought you knew about the 1960s, hit that like button.
Share this with anyone who thinks politics used to be civil. Subscribe because we’re exposing the ruthless power plays that shaped American history. Tell us in the comments. Was Johnson’s cabinet ban legitimate policy or personal revenge? Do you think Bobby would have been a better vice president than Humphrey? And what would have happened if Bobby had been on the ticket in 1964? Because history isn’t just what they tell us, it’s also what they disguise.
And on July 30th, 1964, Lynden Johnson disguised a vendetta as a rule. Thank you for watching and remember sometimes the most brutal attacks come wrapped in the language of principle.
July 30th, 1964, 100 p.m. The Oval Office. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy entered the room. President Lyndon Johnson sat behind the desk, JFK’s desk, waiting. This wasn’t a friendly meeting. This was an execution. The day before, Johnson had made a public announcement that stunned Washington.
No member of his cabinet would be considered for Vice President. Not Secretary of State Dean Rusk, not Defense Secretary Robert McNamera, not Agriculture Secretary Orville Freeman, but everyone knew the truth. There was only one target, one name that had to be eliminated. Robert F. Kennedy. I spent about an hour with the president, mostly being lectured to, Kennedy would later tell friends.
Johnson’s message was clear. You’re out. When Kennedy left the Oval Office, he made a bitter joke to AIDS. I’m sorry I took so many nice fellows over the side with me, but the real line, the one that revealed his fury, came later. Kennedy told a confidant what Johnson really wanted.
He’d do anything to keep that rug from under me. If you want to understand the most ruthless political maneuver in modern American history, how a president invented a fake rule to destroy his greatest rival, hit that like button because this isn’t about cabinet policy. This is about pure hatred, about a vendetta so deep that Johnson was willing to sacrifice his own team just to eliminate one man.
November 22nd, 1963. When JFK died, Lynden Johnson inherited the Bobby problem. Democratic voters loved Bobby Kennedy. Polls showed 85% wanted him as running mate in 1964. Unity, continuity, Camelot restored. But Johnson saw a threat, a rival, a Kennedy reclaiming stolen power. Bobby wasn’t just popular, he was necessary.
Without Kennedy, Johnson risked losing Union voters, Catholics, the Kennedy faithful. But Johnson didn’t care. He cared about power. And Bobby threatened that power more than any Republican. Because Bobby wasn’t running for vice president. He was positioning for 1968 or 1972. And Johnson knew it.
When this fellow looks at me, Johnson told AIDS, he looks at me like he’s going to look a hole right through me, like I’m a spy or something. Now, Bobby wanted to be vice president. One heartbeat from power. Johnson would rather burn down his cabinet than allow it. To understand why Johnson banned Bobby, you need to understand how much they despised each other.
The hatred began in 1960. JFK chose Johnson as running mate over Bobby’s fierce objections. Bobby saw LBJ as a corrupt Texas politician. LBJ saw Bobby as a spoiled rich kid. During Kennedy’s presidency, Bobby wielded power like a weapon. He froze Johnson out of meetings, excluded him from decisions, made sure everyone knew Johnson wasn’t part of the inner circle.
LBJ sat in cabinet meetings, humiliated, powerless. Jackie Kennedy later said, “You could never get an opinion out of Lyndon at any cabinet or national security meeting.” But the real wound went deeper. According to Kennedy aid Richard Goodwin, Bobby symbolized everything Johnson hated. The wealth, the ease, the eastern elegance, the Ivy League polish.
Johnson always looked at himself as the guy they thought was illiterate, rude, crude, Goodwin said. When JFK died and Johnson became president, the hatred didn’t end. It intensified. Bobby resented that Johnson flew back from Dallas on Air Force One instead of the vice presidential plane. Our president was a gentleman and a human being.
Bobby said, “This man is not. He’s mean, bitter, vicious, an animal in many ways.” Johnson, meanwhile, watched Bobby move through Washington like an exiled prince. The Kennedy faithful treated Bobby as the real leader. Johnson was just keeping the seat warm. And now Bobby wanted the vice presidency. Johnson would sooner die. Spring 1964.
Democratic voters loved Bobby. In New Hampshire’s informal vice presidential poll, Kennedy crushed Humphrey in a landslide. The message was clear. We want Bobby. Johnson staffers called it the Bobby problem. How do you reject the most popular Democrat without destroying your campaign? Johnson was paranoid.
On recorded phone calls, he told Governor John Connelly that Bobby planned to force a floor fight at the convention. That the JFK memorial film would create such emotion that delegates would stampede toward Kennedy. He’ll do anything in the world he can to get it, Johnson said. But Johnson feared something deeper. Bobby wasn’t running for vice president.
He was positioning for 1968 or 1972. And Bobby, one heartbeat away, would undermine Johnson every single day. So Johnson devised a plan. Ruthless, brilliant, devastating. Ban Bobby from the ticket, but not directly. That would look petty. Instead, create a rule. Neutral, reasonable, applying to everyone, but really targeting one person. July 29th, 1964.
Johnson summoned Bobby to the Oval Office for an hour. Johnson lectured him. The conversation wasn’t recorded. Bobby knew about JFK’s taping system and likely warned Johnson not to record, but we know what Johnson said. You’re not getting the vice presidency. Bobby later told friends the meeting was excruciating.
sitting across from Johnson in his brother’s office, being told politely, coldly that he was finished. The next day, July 30th, Johnson made his public announcement. I have reached the conclusion that it would be inadvisable for me to recommend to the convention any member of my cabinet. The statement ruled out Bobby, but it also ruled out Dean Rusk, Robert McNamera, Orville Freeman, Adlay Stevenson, Sergeant Shrivever, all of them.
casualties in Johnson’s war against one man. The press understood immediately. The New York Times wrote, “What Johnson was really saying is that despite the clamoring among many in the party, there is no way he will select Attorney General Robert Kennedy.” Bobby issued a gracious public statement.
It is up to the presidential nominee to pick a running mate, and I understand the president’s decision. But privately, he was furious. He sent a note to the other cabinet members. I’m sorry I took so many nice fellows over the side with me. And he told a confidant what he really thought. Johnson would do anything, anything to keep power away from the Kennedys.
He’d do anything to keep that rug from under me. Johnson’s maneuver worked. Bobby was out. Hubert Humphrey was in. Humphrey was loyal, controllable, grateful, everything Bobby wasn’t. At the Atlantic City convention in August, Johnson delayed the JFK memorial film until the final night after Humphrey was already nominated.
He couldn’t risk emotion stampeding delegates toward Bobby. Bobby resigned as attorney general on September 3rd, ran for Senate from New York, won, and hated that he needed Johnson’s help to do it. Johnson’s final revenge, signing legislation barring future presidents from appointing relatives to the cabinet. the Bobby Kennedy rule.
Was Johnson’s cabinet ban legitimate policy or personal vendetta disguised as principal? Johnson claimed he needed his cabinet members to stay in their posts for continuity, for stability, but that’s absurd. Cabinet members leave all the time. Rusk could have been replaced. Magnamera could have been replaced.
There was no operational reason to ban the entire cabinet. The real reason was simple. Johnson couldn’t ban Bobby directly without looking petty, so he banned everyone. Scorched earth, collateral damage. According to historian Jeff Sheeel’s mutual contempt, Johnson’s big push for liberal legislation was in part to ensure that he did not need RFK as VP in order to win.
In 1964, Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act, launched the War on Poverty, built the Great Society. Not just because they were good policies, though they were, but because they gave Johnson the political strength to reject Bobby Kennedy. Johnson’s approval ratings soared. His legislative victories proved he didn’t need the Kennedy name. He could win on his own.
And so, he destroyed Bobby’s vice presidential dreams without firing a single shot directly at him. Brilliant, ruthless, effective. The cabinet ban of 1964 remains one of the most cynical political moves in American history. It wasn’t about governance. It wasn’t about continuity. It was about one man’s hatred for another.
About Lynden Johnson’s determination to keep Robert Kennedy as far from power as possible. And it worked. Bobby never became vice president. Johnson won the 1964 election in a landslide without him. Humphrey served loyally. The Kennedy threat was neutralized for four years because in 1968, Bobby came back not for vice president, for president.
And Johnson, terrified of facing Bobby in the primaries, withdrew from the race entirely. The man Johnson had banned from the vice presidency in 1964, was about to reclaim the White House in 1968 until a gunman in a Los Angeles kitchen stopped him. But that’s another story. If this investigation into political vendetta disguised as policy made you reconsider what you thought you knew about the 1960s, hit that like button.
Share this with anyone who thinks politics used to be civil. Subscribe because we’re exposing the ruthless power plays that shaped American history. Tell us in the comments. Was Johnson’s cabinet ban legitimate policy or personal revenge? Do you think Bobby would have been a better vice president than Humphrey? And what would have happened if Bobby had been on the ticket in 1964? Because history isn’t just what they tell us, it’s also what they disguise.
And on July 30th, 1964, Lynden Johnson disguised a vendetta as a rule. Thank you for watching and remember sometimes the most brutal attacks come wrapped in the language of principle.
July 30th, 1964, 100 p.m. The Oval Office. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy entered the room. President Lyndon Johnson sat behind the desk, JFK’s desk, waiting. This wasn’t a friendly meeting. This was an execution. The day before, Johnson had made a public announcement that stunned Washington.
No member of his cabinet would be considered for Vice President. Not Secretary of State Dean Rusk, not Defense Secretary Robert McNamera, not Agriculture Secretary Orville Freeman, but everyone knew the truth. There was only one target, one name that had to be eliminated. Robert F. Kennedy. I spent about an hour with the president, mostly being lectured to, Kennedy would later tell friends.
Johnson’s message was clear. You’re out. When Kennedy left the Oval Office, he made a bitter joke to AIDS. I’m sorry I took so many nice fellows over the side with me, but the real line, the one that revealed his fury, came later. Kennedy told a confidant what Johnson really wanted.
He’d do anything to keep that rug from under me. If you want to understand the most ruthless political maneuver in modern American history, how a president invented a fake rule to destroy his greatest rival, hit that like button because this isn’t about cabinet policy. This is about pure hatred, about a vendetta so deep that Johnson was willing to sacrifice his own team just to eliminate one man.
November 22nd, 1963. When JFK died, Lynden Johnson inherited the Bobby problem. Democratic voters loved Bobby Kennedy. Polls showed 85% wanted him as running mate in 1964. Unity, continuity, Camelot restored. But Johnson saw a threat, a rival, a Kennedy reclaiming stolen power. Bobby wasn’t just popular, he was necessary.
Without Kennedy, Johnson risked losing Union voters, Catholics, the Kennedy faithful. But Johnson didn’t care. He cared about power. And Bobby threatened that power more than any Republican. Because Bobby wasn’t running for vice president. He was positioning for 1968 or 1972. And Johnson knew it.
When this fellow looks at me, Johnson told AIDS, he looks at me like he’s going to look a hole right through me, like I’m a spy or something. Now, Bobby wanted to be vice president. One heartbeat from power. Johnson would rather burn down his cabinet than allow it. To understand why Johnson banned Bobby, you need to understand how much they despised each other.
The hatred began in 1960. JFK chose Johnson as running mate over Bobby’s fierce objections. Bobby saw LBJ as a corrupt Texas politician. LBJ saw Bobby as a spoiled rich kid. During Kennedy’s presidency, Bobby wielded power like a weapon. He froze Johnson out of meetings, excluded him from decisions, made sure everyone knew Johnson wasn’t part of the inner circle.
LBJ sat in cabinet meetings, humiliated, powerless. Jackie Kennedy later said, “You could never get an opinion out of Lyndon at any cabinet or national security meeting.” But the real wound went deeper. According to Kennedy aid Richard Goodwin, Bobby symbolized everything Johnson hated. The wealth, the ease, the eastern elegance, the Ivy League polish.
Johnson always looked at himself as the guy they thought was illiterate, rude, crude, Goodwin said. When JFK died and Johnson became president, the hatred didn’t end. It intensified. Bobby resented that Johnson flew back from Dallas on Air Force One instead of the vice presidential plane. Our president was a gentleman and a human being.
Bobby said, “This man is not. He’s mean, bitter, vicious, an animal in many ways.” Johnson, meanwhile, watched Bobby move through Washington like an exiled prince. The Kennedy faithful treated Bobby as the real leader. Johnson was just keeping the seat warm. And now Bobby wanted the vice presidency. Johnson would sooner die. Spring 1964.
Democratic voters loved Bobby. In New Hampshire’s informal vice presidential poll, Kennedy crushed Humphrey in a landslide. The message was clear. We want Bobby. Johnson staffers called it the Bobby problem. How do you reject the most popular Democrat without destroying your campaign? Johnson was paranoid.
On recorded phone calls, he told Governor John Connelly that Bobby planned to force a floor fight at the convention. That the JFK memorial film would create such emotion that delegates would stampede toward Kennedy. He’ll do anything in the world he can to get it, Johnson said. But Johnson feared something deeper. Bobby wasn’t running for vice president.
He was positioning for 1968 or 1972. And Bobby, one heartbeat away, would undermine Johnson every single day. So Johnson devised a plan. Ruthless, brilliant, devastating. Ban Bobby from the ticket, but not directly. That would look petty. Instead, create a rule. Neutral, reasonable, applying to everyone, but really targeting one person. July 29th, 1964.
Johnson summoned Bobby to the Oval Office for an hour. Johnson lectured him. The conversation wasn’t recorded. Bobby knew about JFK’s taping system and likely warned Johnson not to record, but we know what Johnson said. You’re not getting the vice presidency. Bobby later told friends the meeting was excruciating.
sitting across from Johnson in his brother’s office, being told politely, coldly that he was finished. The next day, July 30th, Johnson made his public announcement. I have reached the conclusion that it would be inadvisable for me to recommend to the convention any member of my cabinet. The statement ruled out Bobby, but it also ruled out Dean Rusk, Robert McNamera, Orville Freeman, Adlay Stevenson, Sergeant Shrivever, all of them.
casualties in Johnson’s war against one man. The press understood immediately. The New York Times wrote, “What Johnson was really saying is that despite the clamoring among many in the party, there is no way he will select Attorney General Robert Kennedy.” Bobby issued a gracious public statement.
It is up to the presidential nominee to pick a running mate, and I understand the president’s decision. But privately, he was furious. He sent a note to the other cabinet members. I’m sorry I took so many nice fellows over the side with me. And he told a confidant what he really thought. Johnson would do anything, anything to keep power away from the Kennedys.
He’d do anything to keep that rug from under me. Johnson’s maneuver worked. Bobby was out. Hubert Humphrey was in. Humphrey was loyal, controllable, grateful, everything Bobby wasn’t. At the Atlantic City convention in August, Johnson delayed the JFK memorial film until the final night after Humphrey was already nominated.
He couldn’t risk emotion stampeding delegates toward Bobby. Bobby resigned as attorney general on September 3rd, ran for Senate from New York, won, and hated that he needed Johnson’s help to do it. Johnson’s final revenge, signing legislation barring future presidents from appointing relatives to the cabinet. the Bobby Kennedy rule.
Was Johnson’s cabinet ban legitimate policy or personal vendetta disguised as principal? Johnson claimed he needed his cabinet members to stay in their posts for continuity, for stability, but that’s absurd. Cabinet members leave all the time. Rusk could have been replaced. Magnamera could have been replaced.
There was no operational reason to ban the entire cabinet. The real reason was simple. Johnson couldn’t ban Bobby directly without looking petty, so he banned everyone. Scorched earth, collateral damage. According to historian Jeff Sheeel’s mutual contempt, Johnson’s big push for liberal legislation was in part to ensure that he did not need RFK as VP in order to win.
In 1964, Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act, launched the War on Poverty, built the Great Society. Not just because they were good policies, though they were, but because they gave Johnson the political strength to reject Bobby Kennedy. Johnson’s approval ratings soared. His legislative victories proved he didn’t need the Kennedy name. He could win on his own.
And so, he destroyed Bobby’s vice presidential dreams without firing a single shot directly at him. Brilliant, ruthless, effective. The cabinet ban of 1964 remains one of the most cynical political moves in American history. It wasn’t about governance. It wasn’t about continuity. It was about one man’s hatred for another.
About Lynden Johnson’s determination to keep Robert Kennedy as far from power as possible. And it worked. Bobby never became vice president. Johnson won the 1964 election in a landslide without him. Humphrey served loyally. The Kennedy threat was neutralized for four years because in 1968, Bobby came back not for vice president, for president.
And Johnson, terrified of facing Bobby in the primaries, withdrew from the race entirely. The man Johnson had banned from the vice presidency in 1964, was about to reclaim the White House in 1968 until a gunman in a Los Angeles kitchen stopped him. But that’s another story. If this investigation into political vendetta disguised as policy made you reconsider what you thought you knew about the 1960s, hit that like button.
Share this with anyone who thinks politics used to be civil. Subscribe because we’re exposing the ruthless power plays that shaped American history. Tell us in the comments. Was Johnson’s cabinet ban legitimate policy or personal revenge? Do you think Bobby would have been a better vice president than Humphrey? And what would have happened if Bobby had been on the ticket in 1964? Because history isn’t just what they tell us, it’s also what they disguise.
And on July 30th, 1964, Lynden Johnson disguised a vendetta as a rule. Thank you for watching and remember sometimes the most brutal attacks come wrapped in the language of principle.
July 30th, 1964, 100 p.m. The Oval Office. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy entered the room. President Lyndon Johnson sat behind the desk, JFK’s desk, waiting. This wasn’t a friendly meeting. This was an execution. The day before, Johnson had made a public announcement that stunned Washington.
No member of his cabinet would be considered for Vice President. Not Secretary of State Dean Rusk, not Defense Secretary Robert McNamera, not Agriculture Secretary Orville Freeman, but everyone knew the truth. There was only one target, one name that had to be eliminated. Robert F. Kennedy. I spent about an hour with the president, mostly being lectured to, Kennedy would later tell friends.
Johnson’s message was clear. You’re out. When Kennedy left the Oval Office, he made a bitter joke to AIDS. I’m sorry I took so many nice fellows over the side with me, but the real line, the one that revealed his fury, came later. Kennedy told a confidant what Johnson really wanted.
He’d do anything to keep that rug from under me. If you want to understand the most ruthless political maneuver in modern American history, how a president invented a fake rule to destroy his greatest rival, hit that like button because this isn’t about cabinet policy. This is about pure hatred, about a vendetta so deep that Johnson was willing to sacrifice his own team just to eliminate one man.
November 22nd, 1963. When JFK died, Lynden Johnson inherited the Bobby problem. Democratic voters loved Bobby Kennedy. Polls showed 85% wanted him as running mate in 1964. Unity, continuity, Camelot restored. But Johnson saw a threat, a rival, a Kennedy reclaiming stolen power. Bobby wasn’t just popular, he was necessary.
Without Kennedy, Johnson risked losing Union voters, Catholics, the Kennedy faithful. But Johnson didn’t care. He cared about power. And Bobby threatened that power more than any Republican. Because Bobby wasn’t running for vice president. He was positioning for 1968 or 1972. And Johnson knew it.
When this fellow looks at me, Johnson told AIDS, he looks at me like he’s going to look a hole right through me, like I’m a spy or something. Now, Bobby wanted to be vice president. One heartbeat from power. Johnson would rather burn down his cabinet than allow it. To understand why Johnson banned Bobby, you need to understand how much they despised each other.
The hatred began in 1960. JFK chose Johnson as running mate over Bobby’s fierce objections. Bobby saw LBJ as a corrupt Texas politician. LBJ saw Bobby as a spoiled rich kid. During Kennedy’s presidency, Bobby wielded power like a weapon. He froze Johnson out of meetings, excluded him from decisions, made sure everyone knew Johnson wasn’t part of the inner circle.
LBJ sat in cabinet meetings, humiliated, powerless. Jackie Kennedy later said, “You could never get an opinion out of Lyndon at any cabinet or national security meeting.” But the real wound went deeper. According to Kennedy aid Richard Goodwin, Bobby symbolized everything Johnson hated. The wealth, the ease, the eastern elegance, the Ivy League polish.
Johnson always looked at himself as the guy they thought was illiterate, rude, crude, Goodwin said. When JFK died and Johnson became president, the hatred didn’t end. It intensified. Bobby resented that Johnson flew back from Dallas on Air Force One instead of the vice presidential plane. Our president was a gentleman and a human being.
Bobby said, “This man is not. He’s mean, bitter, vicious, an animal in many ways.” Johnson, meanwhile, watched Bobby move through Washington like an exiled prince. The Kennedy faithful treated Bobby as the real leader. Johnson was just keeping the seat warm. And now Bobby wanted the vice presidency. Johnson would sooner die. Spring 1964.
Democratic voters loved Bobby. In New Hampshire’s informal vice presidential poll, Kennedy crushed Humphrey in a landslide. The message was clear. We want Bobby. Johnson staffers called it the Bobby problem. How do you reject the most popular Democrat without destroying your campaign? Johnson was paranoid.
On recorded phone calls, he told Governor John Connelly that Bobby planned to force a floor fight at the convention. That the JFK memorial film would create such emotion that delegates would stampede toward Kennedy. He’ll do anything in the world he can to get it, Johnson said. But Johnson feared something deeper. Bobby wasn’t running for vice president.
He was positioning for 1968 or 1972. And Bobby, one heartbeat away, would undermine Johnson every single day. So Johnson devised a plan. Ruthless, brilliant, devastating. Ban Bobby from the ticket, but not directly. That would look petty. Instead, create a rule. Neutral, reasonable, applying to everyone, but really targeting one person. July 29th, 1964.
Johnson summoned Bobby to the Oval Office for an hour. Johnson lectured him. The conversation wasn’t recorded. Bobby knew about JFK’s taping system and likely warned Johnson not to record, but we know what Johnson said. You’re not getting the vice presidency. Bobby later told friends the meeting was excruciating.
sitting across from Johnson in his brother’s office, being told politely, coldly that he was finished. The next day, July 30th, Johnson made his public announcement. I have reached the conclusion that it would be inadvisable for me to recommend to the convention any member of my cabinet. The statement ruled out Bobby, but it also ruled out Dean Rusk, Robert McNamera, Orville Freeman, Adlay Stevenson, Sergeant Shrivever, all of them.
casualties in Johnson’s war against one man. The press understood immediately. The New York Times wrote, “What Johnson was really saying is that despite the clamoring among many in the party, there is no way he will select Attorney General Robert Kennedy.” Bobby issued a gracious public statement.
It is up to the presidential nominee to pick a running mate, and I understand the president’s decision. But privately, he was furious. He sent a note to the other cabinet members. I’m sorry I took so many nice fellows over the side with me. And he told a confidant what he really thought. Johnson would do anything, anything to keep power away from the Kennedys.
He’d do anything to keep that rug from under me. Johnson’s maneuver worked. Bobby was out. Hubert Humphrey was in. Humphrey was loyal, controllable, grateful, everything Bobby wasn’t. At the Atlantic City convention in August, Johnson delayed the JFK memorial film until the final night after Humphrey was already nominated.
He couldn’t risk emotion stampeding delegates toward Bobby. Bobby resigned as attorney general on September 3rd, ran for Senate from New York, won, and hated that he needed Johnson’s help to do it. Johnson’s final revenge, signing legislation barring future presidents from appointing relatives to the cabinet. the Bobby Kennedy rule.
Was Johnson’s cabinet ban legitimate policy or personal vendetta disguised as principal? Johnson claimed he needed his cabinet members to stay in their posts for continuity, for stability, but that’s absurd. Cabinet members leave all the time. Rusk could have been replaced. Magnamera could have been replaced.
There was no operational reason to ban the entire cabinet. The real reason was simple. Johnson couldn’t ban Bobby directly without looking petty, so he banned everyone. Scorched earth, collateral damage. According to historian Jeff Sheeel’s mutual contempt, Johnson’s big push for liberal legislation was in part to ensure that he did not need RFK as VP in order to win.
In 1964, Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act, launched the War on Poverty, built the Great Society. Not just because they were good policies, though they were, but because they gave Johnson the political strength to reject Bobby Kennedy. Johnson’s approval ratings soared. His legislative victories proved he didn’t need the Kennedy name. He could win on his own.
And so, he destroyed Bobby’s vice presidential dreams without firing a single shot directly at him. Brilliant, ruthless, effective. The cabinet ban of 1964 remains one of the most cynical political moves in American history. It wasn’t about governance. It wasn’t about continuity. It was about one man’s hatred for another.
About Lynden Johnson’s determination to keep Robert Kennedy as far from power as possible. And it worked. Bobby never became vice president. Johnson won the 1964 election in a landslide without him. Humphrey served loyally. The Kennedy threat was neutralized for four years because in 1968, Bobby came back not for vice president, for president.
And Johnson, terrified of facing Bobby in the primaries, withdrew from the race entirely. The man Johnson had banned from the vice presidency in 1964, was about to reclaim the White House in 1968 until a gunman in a Los Angeles kitchen stopped him. But that’s another story. If this investigation into political vendetta disguised as policy made you reconsider what you thought you knew about the 1960s, hit that like button.
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And on July 30th, 1964, Lynden Johnson disguised a vendetta as a rule. Thank you for watching and remember sometimes the most brutal attacks come wrapped in the language of principle.
